April
2005
Who is the better Salsa Singer?
Isaac Delgado or Marc Anthony
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The Feedback.... July 15, 2003 Discriminatory Entry Practices July 21, 2002 -- Issac and Marc Rose, we can`t make this comparison, they both have a different background. I think Marc was pushed to the salsa scene, he was singing rock and pop and he is coming back to the pop world, where he belongs.But, he is a great singer, he has a nice voice. The problem is that salsa (son,rumba,guaracha,timba,mambo) is the music of the barrio, the music of humble people and, you need to live in that enviroment. Salsa is not just about love stories and romantic messages, salsa is the feeling of the people, the improvisation, the clave rhythm, the heat of the mambos. Issac comes from the heart of the people and, even when he is famous he still living among the people, the people that work hard to make their living.So, when he sing you can feel that he is singing through his fans`s hearts, he can understand their feelings. I like Marc Anthony as well as Luis Miguel and Alejandro Fernandez and some others great latin singers but, even when they have an excelent voice they need to know what genre is the more convinient for them. You can not grew up in a golden bed and then to come and sing afrocuban music. Marc singing rock is much better, but Issac does it better in salsa, guaguanco and timba. Have you heard Issac when he was with NG La Banda ? He was great at that time too -- Abdel September 20, 2002 -- Marc Anthony or Issac Delgado. First of all Marc Anthony is from the barrio. He came from my neighborhood "El Barrio" or "Spanish Harlem". For the record that is a ghetto. As for rose question who sings better Marc Anthony by a "wide" margin. he has abetter voice better range, much more clear. Issac might have better swing but that was not the question. AND THE WINNER IS MARC ANTHONY!!! PS. May he rest in peace but Frankie Ruiz had much more swing than Issac delgado this is going back to before he sang salsa romantica. Which even w/that (salsa romantica he had tremendo swing! Ask anyone that had the chance to see him perform live.) El Lapiz September 23, 2002 -- respond to el lapiz I must agree with you that musically Mark Anthony is a better singer
and that he has a better voice, and the rest i think is a matter of
taste,also i think that Mark Anthony could not improvise like Isaak
Delgado can and the music that they sing are very different,i also
think that Isaak is a sonero and he sings more with la clave than
Mark Anthony but i like them both and i will always support Mark Anthony
because he is Latin. September 26, 2002 -- Issac Delgado or Marc Anthony Who cares who comes from the slums?? Coming from the slums doesn't make you a great singer. I just get tired of listening to Marc Anthony, same arrangements, same commericialized letras (lyrics) and temas (subjects). I just don't like listening to screaming and crying all the time. I hate the falsetto voice that Puerto Rican singers have. Issac Delgado not only has the best voice in salsa, but perhaps the best in any style of music now -- Alex September 29, 2002 -- Who is a better singer To simply answer the question which was who is the better singer, Marc by far, you guys never heard him sing aganile and to respond to Alex most of the best singers that you dance to are Puerto Rican, dont get mad because some of them choose to go the route of the money maker and to be honest those two should not be even be compared they are too different. -- Ismael September 29, 2002 -- Response a Alex Un Saludo especial to Vladimir! Hey Alex cool the f_ck out w/ that anti Boricua sh_t!!! I am not a Marc Anthony fan either. But like Vladimir said i too support him, and i give him his props. There are a lot of good Salsero's/Soneros that don't get radio play. My two favorites that don't get radio play (airplay) are Luisito Carrion & Frankie Vasquez. I will put these two soneros up there w/ any sonero. And Domingo Quinones (stop complainig about Marc & listen to Domingo) who many would agree is if not the best, one of the best today!!!! That's right Domingo Quinones "El mas que canta! A true sonero. The 3 Soneros that I mentioned are not commercially known. But if you by all their lataest release. you will thank me for the tip. their are many NY salsa artist's thatdon't get airplay & are
deserving of it Like: Rose i know you know but pls don't use Marc anthony instead use Luisito or Domingo or Frankie Vasquez. Again Alex leave that anti sh_t alone!!! -- El Lapiz November 4, 2002 -- Who is the better singer ( Delgado or Anthony?) Marc Anthony (in my opinion) is the better singer. His voice is clear and stong when he sings. Even in the sadest parts of Marc's emotional songs, his voice prevails. Lisa November 7, 2002 -- Marc or Isaac I just heard Mr. Isaac...and he is an amazing singer....I wish he were marketed more in NYC....where he could make a bigger name for himself...but...I have heard Marc Anthony sing many times in the old Copacabana in NYC...and he is by far the better singer.... and for those who thinks he cannot improvise.... well.... many times on stage he would ask the crowd which song they wanted him to sing... one time someone chose Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive"... and I tell you it gave me goosebumps..... he is awesome..... also I don't think that it matters that he now lives in a Mansion.... so what... he is who he is..... from El Barrio... that won't change.... that is like saying.... now that I have moved to Toronto.... and no longer live in the Bronx..... that I have lost my feeling for dancing Salsa.... it cannot happen... it is inside of me...just like Marc.!!... Marc Anthony wins...by a smaller margin than I first thought....( long live these forums!!) -- Alfie December 27 , 2002 -- Who has teh better sonero voice? I think this is Issac's by a clear margine. The truth is Marc Anthony is an exceptional talent, but he's not a sonero, he should stick to ballads and r&b. Saying who is the better singer is very difficult. Yes, Marc Anthony can go higher and has a more powerful voice, but Issac has a very tuned and educated one. He may not go as high, but he does subtle things than only musicians can appreciate, things like "cantar en disonante". That's something very difficult to do that I've personally seen Marc do. Issac also, I feel has a better "media voz". I think Issac is a better schooled singer, he's more technically sound than Marc. Marc meanwhile has more natural talent, he lacks the schooling of Issac, but has an exceptional voice. What Issac has on Marc in terms of schooling can be solved with music lessons (not singing) and a lot of practice. What will never change is the sonero part. You are born and raised a sonero, you don't become one. Issac is a sonero, Marc Anthony is not. Someone mentioned that Marc Anthony asks the audience to pick songs and associated this with improvising, that's not improvising at all. Improvising is what the sonero does to answer the choruses. They come up with catch phrases, some of them are recycled ones, others they come up with in the spot, others are adaptations of other choruses, but that's something that only the really good soneros do. Someone also mentioned Franky Ruiz (may he rest in peace wherever it is) and said that he had more swing than Issac, specially if you saw him live. Although I was a fan of Franky and always liked his music, the few times I saw him live I was dissapointed. He had a great voice, but his improvisation skills weren't too good, and although I hate to say it, I must admit it bored me. One improviser I always admire was Cheo Feliciano. -- Orisha January 21, 2003 -- Marc Anthony versus Issac Delgado Hi everyone... I just would like to say a few things.... I've been reading this section and I must admit that Osisha is 100% right... is a good singer someone who can sing higher or lower?? wrong....!!! doesn't matter.... because is if we talk about singing higher is better than singing lower then the best singers must be Opera singers.... like Orisha said: Issac may not go as high, but he does subtle things than only musicians can appreciate, things like "cantar en disonante". I think that they are both good singers but I like Issac more.... he's was borned sonero, timbero, rumbero,songero.... he lives in Cuba... where the son comes from.... the mother of latin music... he is one of the best timberos or salseros improvising...!! he can go for hours singing different things... you can say to him.. como estas? and he'll create a chorus or song out of it.. and I don't want to offend any one but Marc Anthony can't do that... I don't think I know it all but I have studied music, I listen and I play it... and I've seen cubans, colombians, puerto ricans... and the best ones improvising are the cubans... I guess that's also because most of the american or salsa singers can't really speak spanish properly.... that you all know that I am right about it... that's why Issac and other timberos tienen la formula.. un poquito de todo el mundo y un poco del mas aya..!!! -- Timbero4ever January 29, 2003 -- MARC ANTHONY OR THE OTHER ONE???? WHO SINGS BETTER??? WHO CARES??? THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS MARC ANTHONY OR WHOOO????? I AM SICK OF MANY HISPANICS TALKING BAD ABOUT PUERTO RICANS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DON'T SAY ANYTHING ALL!!!!! YOU HATE US BECAUSE WE ARE US CITIZENS. GOD BLESSED US EVEN WITH THAT!!!! WE HAVE 4 "MISS UNIVERSE" THE MOST FAMOUS LATIN ARTISTS ARE PUERTO RICANS-JENNIFER LOPEZ, MARC ANTHONY, RICKY MARTIN, RITA MORENO, CHAYANNE, ETC,ETC. YOU PEOPLE ARE SO JEALOUS OF US !!!! AND IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER PERSON THAT COULD SING SALSA BETTER THAN A PUERTO RICAN!!!!! THEY COULD IMITATE US BUT NEVER THE SAME!!!! Y ESO DE QUE LOS PUERTORRIQUENOS NO SABEMOS HABLAR BIEN EL ESPANOL, PUES ESTAN MUY EQUIVOCADOS. COMO TODO EL MUNDO, SI NO ESTUDIAS NO APRENDES, NO IMPORTA DE QUE PAIS SEAS. Y POR ULTIMO...DON'T HATE US CAUSE WE ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!QUE DIOS LOS BENDIGA Y LES PERDONE SU IGNORANCIA!!!!! Wanda February 17, 2003 -- Marc Anthony versus Issac Delgado Funny I thought that this topic was about who was a better singer. Maybe if the people who think that Issac Delgado is a better singer was to open up there freakin ears and listen to his voice instead of listening to there over grown cuban ego's they would notice that Marc Anthony is a way better singer. Marc Anthony has a beautiful voice and I can't believe its being in comparison to Issac Delgado. SO my vote goes to Marc Anthony and anyone who's states other wise is thinking with there ego's and not there ears and heart. -- Pedro Navaja September 17, 2003 -- who's the better singer, Marc Anthony Or Issac Delgado.. Marc Anthony is a "singer" because he hits all the notes u need to hit as a singer, Issac Delgado is a "salsa singer" because he knows how to improvise, or he's a "sonero"...which Marc Anthony is not... in salsa, its about being a sonero and feeling the music and even just feeling the clave in ur heard without music ... Issac would be able to sing without the music behind him, but Marc Anthony wouldn't, issac is a true salsa singer, but Marc Anthony is just a singer...and he is good at it dont get me wrong--- as for who is better, wha kind of question is that, first of all music is not about who's better, its about entertaining the people together,... plus how can u even try to compare two totally different people with there own unique styles...one 'now' sings for money and fame and the other sings for pleasure and entertainment...figure out who's who... ***la timbalera*** September 22, 2003 -- Response to Rose Knows "Marc Anthony vs. Issac Delagado" Hello Rose: I just wanted to ask you, with all respect, to please end up the debate about who's a better singer between Marc Anthony and Issac Delgado, the reason being that this discussion is futile, irrational, unnecessary, nonsense. I believe a debate must have a logical foundation, and this one lacks it. You are tempting people to fall in the trap of an argument that shouldn't be held because by common sense (often expressed here) YOU CANNOT COMPARE THEM. The two artists are so different. It's like asking: "what's better, classical music or african music?", or "who was a better leader, Jesus or Mohamed?". Closing down this debate will also keep people from having the disgusting experience of reading a comment like this: "YOU HATE US BECAUSE WE ARE US CITIZENS. GOD BLESSED US EVEN WITH THAT!!!! WE HAVE 4 "MISS UNIVERSE" THE MOST FAMOUS LATIN ARTISTS ARE PUERTO RICANS-JENNIFER LOPEZ, MARC ANTHONY, RICKY MARTIN, RITA MORENO, CHAYANNE, ETC,ETC. YOU PEOPLE ARE SO JEALOUS OF US !!!! AND IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER PERSON THAT COULD SING SALSA BETTER THAN A PUERTO RICAN!!!!! THEY COULD IMITATE US BUT NEVER THE SAME!!!! Believe me Rose, to read something like that is EXTREMELY DISTURBING. But the main reason why I think the debate should be over is because it doesn't make sense. You know it. If there's anyone out there who agrees with me, please send Rose a message letting her know. -- El Conguero. September 26, 2003 -- RMarc Anthony vs. Isaac Delgado The two sides of this debate show that neither singer/salsero has what it takes to be labeled as the best of the best. Marc Anthony has a great voice. He is anything but a sonero (though HE was the one that first wanted to try some salsa). He's a pop singer with some extra percussion. Isaac Delgado has all the skills that a sonero needs and more, enough to make plenty of other soneros jealous. But his voice lacks that star quality that Anthony's has. So as far as I'm concerned, their tied for anything for first place.
A true sonero has it all - the voice and the sonero skills. Perhaps
for example the likes of Hector Lavoe? October 27, 2003 -- Who is the better Salsa Singer? I would definitely say Issac Delgado!! I absolutely LOVE his music and was fortunate enough to meet him last year when he came to New England. His music doesn't seem "pop"-like, like Marc Anthony's is. Don't get me wrong, I love Marc Anthony's music too... but I'm more of an Issac Delgado Fan. THANKS! :) -- Joanne October 30, 2003 -- Isaac vs Marc Anthony Mi mensaje es en Español, soy Cubano-Americano y me molesta la discusion que si yo soy americano, que si ustedes no,etc. Lo único que puedo decir es que los dos son buenos cada uno en su género, aunque reconozco que Marc Anthony es màs conocido ya que canta tanto para el mercado hispano como para el anglo y en los dos tiene éxito. Isaac en cambio es uno de los mejores soneros/salseros que han existido sino que le pregunten a cualquier Puertoriqueño de la isla para que les digan si el gusta allí o no. Que vivan los dos porque mis oidos se deleitan escuchando la música que hacen...Sonero Man November 2, 2003 -- Issac or Marc Anthony I started this debate because both singers were coming to Toronto that summer. And both were representive of their types of salsa. And with a provocative title like who is better Issac or Marc Anthony. I am sure many people took the time to find out who Issac Delgado was and listen to his music because he is still less popular than Marc Anthony. Although Marc Anthony might have a better voice, I think most would agree Issac Delgado is more of a sonero and more in the tradition of the great salsa singers before. Personally I like Issac's music for dancing and Marc Anthony's music for listening. I don't think the discussion topic is disgusting. Maybe some of the people were disgusting (especially Wanda). But I think it educated many people. If you call yourself a salsero o sonero (someone who likes son), you should know who Issac Delgado is (probably before Marc Anthony). -- Alex November 11, 2003 -- Issac Delgado or Marc Antony, the best singer? Mi mensaje sera en español. November 16, 2003 -- Who is the better Salsa Singer? No hay duda. Un cantante de salsa no es solo un buen registro de vos o un buen tono, un buen cantante de salsa es alguien que lo lleva en la sangre que toda su vida haya sido influenciado por este tipo de música y que sea capas de reflejar sentimientos, paisajes, estados de animo, sensaciones y en especial la alegría y vida que tiene la salsa. Sin lugar a dudas ese cantante es Isaac Delgado. Además, si nos fijamos en la calidad de composiciones, las letras, la pulcritud musical, la diversidad musical y rítmica, Isaac Delgado sigue siendo mejor. En gustos no hay nada escrito, pero Marc Anthony se dedica a interpretar salsas fáciles y comerciales que suenan pero no trascienden. Todo esto tiene una explicación sencilla, Isaac Delgado nació y se crió en la tierra de la salsa, Cuba. -- Mauricio December 20, 2003 -- isaac delgado or Marc anthony As a Salsa musician- Half cuban descent born in New York... I've gone one level higher. I've compared Cuban singers as a whole to Puerto Rican Singers as a whole...I have found in my humble a Opinion(I stress- My Opinion!)... That the CUBAN singers HAVE a WIDER CAPABILITY of IMPROVISATIONAL SKILLS-due to more African connectivity, But the PUERTO RICAN singers have VOICES, that ARE MORE PLEASING to the ear. Please note there are exceptions to both- PR's Hector Tricoche and Gilberto Santarosa can improvise for days. Cuba's Paulito's voice is far superior than many -- Bobby January 2, 2004 -- isaac delgado or Marc anthony I have been a Marc Anthony fan all of my life, and I will support him until the day I die. I have traveled across the country just to see him perform in concert. When you hear him perform, you get goosebumps. His energy just explodes when he is on stage. It is true, you don't hear too much of his salsa music in the clubs, because dancers prefer faster movements and his music is a little reserved. I don't know who the other artist is, but I will check him out. I am sure they are both good in their own right. -- Tanya February 24 , 2004 -- isaac delgado or Marc anthony About the two singers Who cares who's better. I just enjoy listening to all great singers and am glad that all spanish music is more reachable than when I was growning up. I'm proud to hear so many spanish singers from all around and to be able to show my children to appreciate it all. From Rancheras to Salsa and everything in between! Diana January 2, 2005 -- isaac delgado or Marc anthony Marc to listen in general but to really dance Isaac is the one,he's music is filled with rumba-mambo-chachacha-son etc things that will eventually have a more Cuban flavor versus the comercial Salsa more asociated to the mass production of $$$ Marc Anthony has a better voice but not better rythem or swing.... but my favorite will be Benny More and his Band and Roberto Faz and Conjunto Casino .. that's real dancing music in Cuba is like hamburgers in EEUU.. Frienly Juan Carlos "El son es lo mas sublime para el alma divertir se debiera de morir quien por bueno no lo estime" -- Juan Carlos January 19, 2005 -- isaac delgado or Marc anthony I would agree Marc Anthony is more for listening, and Issac Delgado is more for dancing. I really like Marc Anthony's at the beginning. But the more times I hear the songs, I really begin to start to hate the songs. All that heart break becomes grating after a while. With Issac Delgado's songs, when I first hear them I find them slow and boring. But as I hear the songs more often, I begin to hear more things in them, and I begin to love them. I really didn't like his song the "la formula" at first, and found his voice too slow and easy going. But now when I hear this song, I go crazy. I love Issac Delgado. -- Manuel January 27, 2005 -- isaac delgado or Marc anthony In response to Bobby's feedback, he must have been born yesterday if he truly feels that cuban are better soneros than puerto ricans, he mentioned Hector Tricoche and Gilberto Santarosa as if they are the only few, Lets see El Sonero Mayor Ismael Rivera, PR, Hector Lavoe PR, Domingo Quinones PR, you probably never heard Victor Mannuele freestyle a whole song or even Michael Stewart who is a great sonero as well, Lets not forget Cano Estremera, try to get Guerra de los Soneros and you will see that most are Puert Rican "honorable mention to Jose Alberto DR" and this is just the tip of the ice burg. If you truly know salsa and not the business side which almost forces artists to sing mainstream because thats where the money is but see them really sing and make a list you will see that the Puerto Rican soneros out number the cuban, no deserved credit taken away from the great cuban soneros but bobby you shouldnt post things you know nothing about. --Ismael January 31, 2005 -- isaac delgado or Marc anthony Comparing peoples talents is never positive, always negative. No matter who is better or worst, they both push the evolution of music & without them, there would be no progress. I have heard both of them sing I prefer Marc's voice but I prefer Isaac's improv. In the end, its what we each like best individually. They are both great in their own categories. In the end, a nationalistic spirit is what decides who's best & that is ethically wrong by all measures. As latinos we should praise all talents as unique, saying a boricua is better than a cuban or visavera in certains areas of music is never true, just difference. Thats like saying that a black is better than a white in certain things. Wrong line of thinking. The great Jose Marti once said the Cuba & Puerto Rico are of one bird the two wings. That is true cuban patriotism, unite not destroy & that goes to both nations. If it werent for Puertoricans & Cubans, salsa would not be what it is today. Benny More was the greatest latin singer of his time & his category & yet he declared Ismael Rivera "El Sonero Mayor". Both unique spectrums of the evolution of latin music. Marc & Isaac should be seen with this same positive attitude. Jose Marrero April 1, 2005 -- Who is the better Salsa Singer, Isaac Delgado or Marc Anthony? I just came across the “Tosalsa” forum and was appalled
by some of the comments I read. I know it’s 2005, but I’m
sure that the people that made these comments still feel the same
way today as they did in 2002/2003. I feel compelled to put in my
two cents in regard to these comments. Even if the people I'm addressing
are no longer members of this forum, I wanted others to read my comments
to see if I can make a difference in the way SPANISH people treat
each other. April 29, 2005 -- Issac o Marc? Bueno pa' mi me gusta mas Issac por que el tiene mas ritomo y se siente su musica y no se como explicaro, pero bueno asi de simple se siente en la alma. No piensen mal Marc canta bonito y todo pero es que la salsa viene de Cuba, y uno siendo Cubano lo va a sentir mas por que son de tus raizes!! Bueno yo siendo de cuba pienso asi por que tu sabes, pero lo que importa de verdad en una voz es si se siente y ti tiene ritmo, y conosimiento de lo que uno canta por que tampoco vas a salir de algo y no saver na'!! Pero you know esa es mi opinion, y cada qual piensa diferente so, ya tu sabes. De cualquier forma que sigan rumbiando que los dos lo hacen rico pa' bailar!!! La Cubanita!! -- Maria May 4, 2005 -- Isaac Delgado or Marc Anthony? In my opinion, Isaac Delgado surpases Marc Anthony not in voice but
in style. Most cuban bands surpass the puerto rican bands in improvisation
(chord placement, jazz implementation, and improvisation) I know this
because I studied Piano in Cuba when I was young and have played with
several bands that got to travel out of the Island.
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